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Subject: 8-11-2008 Newsletter Update from Ber
email addy – berry@detailshere.com

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Global Pension Plan
Problem - there are 200,000 people who put money in but only 30,000 have submitted ID and membership agreements. Go to www.future4me.com/gpp for full explanation.
GPP requires at least 100,000 'verified' members to start the first stage of payouts, currently as per their update at the GPP forum on August 10th they have only received documents from 30,500 members, which is still good but as nearly 200,000 joined then there are many who have got lost along the way as it has been 3 years since GPP started.

The important thing for all of us is to get as many GPP members to follow through with these final stages so we can get paid sooner, so please post the link to this website wherever you can as it has detailed instructions to help existing GPP members send in the required documentation, the website URL is simply www.future4me.com/gpp (just remember 'your future / GPP') and a good slogan to use with it is: "GPP are almost ready to pay you, but are you ready to receive it?"

Login in at http://www.globalpp.net/login.php   with your username and password.
and go to the forum link at the bottom of the menu list on the left for all the info.
All the instructions you need to submit your ID and Membership agreement is found in the
top 7-17 instruction. Follow them to the letter if you want to get paid. If you can't get into your site
email me for the requirements and form required. I have a list of everyone's login name who signed
up under me but not your passwords. You can either fill in your banking information on the form or
wait for their "banking solution" which has not yet been stated yet. You have until Aug 17th to submit documents. The Membership Agreement requested can be found on the main page from the " files" menu on the left after you login at http://www.globalpp.net/login.php
Print it out, fill it out, and email it in with a jpeg of your passport or drivers license picture ID.
The email addy to send it to is included in the July 17th forum message.

If you forgot your login or password, this is the email address to send to to try and recover it.
Do not send any other correspondence to this email addy.
global.new.pw@gmail.com

Stella's site is saying we can purchase additional policies for 10 euros ea. until they don't
have anymore or until Aug 17th. I clicked on "purchase" and it says $15.90 LRUSD, as in Liberty Reserve. I don't use LR so I don't have any to trade.

You can also try Support@Globalpensionplan.net but I have never had a response from that addy.

E Bullion owner killed . Will this affect PTE?
See updates at http://www.detailshere.com/ebullionfiasco.htm and I will keep it updated as more information becomes available. Does this mean the demise of E Bullion?? It's too early to tell. You cannot access the site. Pamela's 18 year old daughter could take over the operation if Jim is found guilty. Meanwhile I am taking no more funds in for PTE via ebullion until we can determine if ebullion will survive or we have to change processors. QLx3 has already changed processors. If we change processors I will probably lean towards SolidTrustPay although that is not for certain as of today. We have had NO loss of any funds in PTE in the past four years due to hackers using the E Bullion cryptocarded system which is very safe. I do not want to abandon it unless we have to. That determination won't be made until we return to our home in Mexico about the 20th of this month.

Hold your emails from August 11th to August 20th.
We will be incomunicado. We will be in transit from Russia back to Mexico for the next ten days of this month starting today and will not be online to either receive or send information. We leave for back home today. Besides getting Irina's passport renewed, we came to Russia to spread the good news of the gospel and have failed miserably, except for one family. We reaped one family, that's it. The system of idolatry here has us beat. People are either completely non believers or entrenched in a system of doctrines and mariology and saintology controlled by the Greek Orthodox pharisees of our time. Everyone else is a cult here, including Christians. Irina and I sat out on the boardwalk, a 6 block long park boulevard, last night in Yoshkar-Ola which is where everyone who is anyone goes for their evening walk, with a sign and a box trying to sell her book for only 10 rubles, about 45 cents. The books cost about $5 each to print. They are 8 x 10, small print, 5/8" thick, lots of pics and cover the history of the church including the inquisition and a lot of endtimes prophecy. In several hours of hundreds of people walking by we had only three people show enough interest to look at the book and buy it. We were accused of being adventists, pentecostals, quakers, mormons, satanists, and jehovahs witnesses. Fact is, we belong to no affiliation today, we studied ourselves out of several. God's church isn't a building or a particualr affiliation, it is people who choose to follow him. The Orthadox church has these people in a stranglehold and extract money from them for their million dollar Soloman like churches. They also actively campaign on TV and on the street warning people about people like us to keep them in tow standing in line kissing pictures of Mary and the saints. Interesting, but we never quit trying and we will passout one more batch parachute docs on the trainride back also.

Oceanside Wealth
See www.oceansidewealth.com/detailshere for full details of the updated payplan changes.
They DECIDED THAT THE 20/80 RULE SUCKED!!!! AND DECIDED TO LET EACH MEMBER KEEP MORE CASH IN THEIR POCKETS EACH MONTH. THEY NOW INTRODUCE THE 40/60 RULE! YOU GET TO CASH OUT 40% OF YOUR MATRIX EARNINGS EACH MONTH, AND 60% WILL GO INTO YOUR FOREX ACCOUNT. WE HOPE YOU ENJOY THE EXTRA UP FRONT CASH IN YOUR POCKET!

Membership fee is $60/mo. In actuality, 6 people under you gets you into profit in the matrix...which handily covers the membership fee. The best guess right now is that we will have close to 10,000 people coming in the first month. Getting in early, there's a VERY high probability of spillover. The program is projected to produce a 10% to 20%/mo return which means $400 of your investment up front is required to pay your monthly membership costs ($400 x 15%ave = $60) unless you get in early and the 2 x 10 matrix pays for it monthly. There is still time to do that.

There's no surfing here as this is not a surf site. This is REAL forex trading. The difference here is that as members, we get to see the trading taking place in real-time sometimes...and daily charts to show the trading activity that has taken place. Historical data suggests a 10-20% monthly return. Their lowest month was 3%....their highest was 45%. This is over a 15 month-tracked period of time.

SEC has these three sites shutdown and it is not looking good for their return
Golden Panda
www.detailshere.com/goldenpanda.htm
AsdCashGenerator
www.detailshere.com/asdcashgenerator.htm
LaFuente Dinero
www.detailshere.com/asdcashgenerator.htm

MrsVIP
www.detailshere.com/mrsvip.htm
is not like the above three in that the Mrs VIP business has external large advertising contracts
outside of the membership buying advertising that is providing income. It's not relying on Peter paying Paul legit or not. Plus you can earn up to three times as much on your own money in Mrs VIP than you can in the above programs or the INET program if you are not a referrer. This is my second favorite program after PTE.

I can no longer post the math for the real net profit earnings for these programs on the net but can discuss it with you one on one, email or by phone, if you are interested. There's some real surprises
when you do the math and consider all the factors. See my discussion on ad surfs in general and the
new kid on the block, INET, below.

Ad Surf Programs and the new kid on the block, INET Global.
I warned you in my 8-6 newsletter to not get caught up in the INET vacuum. That's a vacuum on your money. They have now changed their payplan even more and made it even less lucrative unless you are willing to put in $2000 up front for the elite membership.   You would never recoup your $2k withut a huge referral network. In INET there is a membership level join fee (up to $2000) plus a monthly membership fee of $40/mo on top of that is required to earn anything. Do you have any idea how much money you would have to have in there to cover a $40 /mo membership fee for 4 months with only a 125 day length of time your principal is good for? You can find out by going back to my 8-6 newsletter posted at www.detailshere.com/newsletterupdates.htm

$500 in ad packages suffers a $35 loss with no profit at the end of 125 days.

$1000 in ad packages yields only a 2.25%/mo net profit.

$2000 in ad packages only a 4.25%/mo net profit.
And that doesn't include subtracting out the initial join fees either.

$5000 in ad packages earns 5.45%/mo net profit. hmmmmm.

If you would put your $5000 into Mrs what's her name as a diamond you would be earning a 16.5% /mo
net profit including all fees and expenses accounted for and still be getting the 10% off your referrals and not have had to put up a $2000 join fee to boot. . hmmmmm. Isn't that interesting.

I will not fund this program or lead my sheep to it. Again see the 8-6 newsletter for all the details of why this is a questionable deal.

Thanks so much! From total dispair to being okay, at least temporarily
Here's something interesting. In my 8-6 newsletter I put in a paypal addy you could send to Brighton. One person did that. Brighton emailed me back only five hours later stating he had the cash in the hand. Is that amazing or what?

Besides sending Brighton a check at
Brighton Gundani
P O Box 1447
Marondera, Zimbabwe
Africa
You can also send paypal to his friend's account who can get cash there. That paypal account is
rchitumba@yahoo.com . Be sure to put in the memo box of the spend that it is for Brighton Gundani and email Brighton a copy of your spend to bgundani@yahoo.com

Another good mystery
http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/397.html

Deadly spider under toiler seats
I thought you might find the following article from snopes.com
http://www.snopes.com/horrors/insects/telamonia.asp

Just say no
http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/302.html

This could be me, can't wait to get back home to softball
Two 90-year-old women, Rose and Barb, had been friends all of their lives.

When it was clear that Rose was dying, Barb visited her every day. One day Barb said, 'Rose, we both loved playing women's softball all our lives, and we played all through High School. Please do me one favor: when you get to Heaven, somehow you must let me know if there's women's soft-ball there.'

Rose looked up at Barb from her deathbed and said, 'Barb, you've been my best friend for many years. If it's at all possible, I'll do this favor for you.' Shortly after that, Rose passed on.

At midnight a few nights later, Barb was awakened from a sound sleep by a blinding flash of white light and a voice calling out to her, 'B arb, Barb.'

'Who is it?' asked Barb, sitting up suddenly. 'Who is it?'

'Barb -- it's me, Rose.'

'You're not Rose. Rose just died.'

'I'm telling you, it's me, Rose,' insisted the voice.

'Rose! Where are you?'

'In Heaven,' replied Rose. 'I have some really good news and a little bad news.'

'Tell me the good news first,' said Barb.

'The good news,' Rose said, 'is that there's Softball in Heaven. Better yet all of our old buddies who died before us are here, too. Better than that, we're all young again. Better still, it's always springtime, and it never rains or snows. And best of all, we can play softball all we want, and we never get tired.'

'That's fantastic,' said Barb. 'It's beyond my wildest dreams! So what's the bad news?'

'You're pitching Tuesday.'

God Bless

Doss-va-dan-ya (good bye)
Buenos dias,
que dios le bendiga,
Ber

Subject: 8-6-2008 Newsletter Update from Ber
email addy – berry@detailshere.com

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As there is oftentimes important news coming in between my newsletters, I am posting an interim newsletter section at the beginning of my page at www.detailshere.com/newsletterupdates.htm
You might want to check on that page periodically for breaking news.

This newsletter will address ad surfs again in depth as a new one is popping up to cash
in on the frenzy, and there will be more joining the bandwagon, and there's SEC problems
with some of the existing ones.

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L Arginine, the magic bullet for cleansing the cardiovascular system
Prevent a $90k heart attack by roto rootering your arterial network. The 1998 Nobel
Peace prize was given for this discovery. www.detailshere.com/heart.htm   and
http://www.greathealth-tour.com/detailshere    the video and information
Click on " The Cardiovascular Cure" video just beneath the "Buy Now" button.
This is the most amazing and well put together video I have ever seen on the subject.
Arteriosclerosis IS reversible. The amino acid L Arginine is the magic bullet for your
body to create the nitric oxide needed to eliminate arterial plaque and restore elasticity
which can eliminate hypertension and prevent heart attacks. For real, but it takes 5 grams
a day to do it. It also does so much more. View the video! if you are a "helping others "
person; you HAVE to take a part in spreading the word on this. On that site is a link to find
a DPA test site nearest you to determine inexpensively your biological arterial network age.
See the www.detailshere.com/heart.htm   for   extensive information.

Global Pension Plan
Time to submit documents for payout.
Login in at http://www.globalpp.net/login.php   with your username and password.
and go to the forum link at the bottom of the menu list on the left for all the info.
All the instructions you need to submit your ID and Membership agreement is found in the
top 7-17 instruction. Follow them to the letter if you want to get paid. If you can't get into your site
email me for the requirements and form required. I have a list of everyone's login name who signed
up under me but not your passwords. You can either fill in your banking information on the form or
wait for their "banking solution" which has not yet been stated yet. You have until Aug 17th to submit documents. The Membership Agreement requested can be found on the main page from the " files" menu on the left after you login at http://www.globalpp.net/login.php
Print it out, fill it out, and email it in with a jpeg of your passport or drivers license picture ID.
The email addy to send it to is included in the July 17th forum message.

If you forgot your login or password, this is the email address to send to to try and recover it.
Do not send any other correspondence to this email addy.
global.new.pw@gmail.com

You can also try Support@Globalpensionplan.net but I have never had a response from that addy.

E-Gold executives have pleaded guilty to charges of money laundering. Details: http://www.geek.com/e-gold-management-trio-plead-guilty-to-money-laundering-charges-20080724/
The report also refers to the re-implementation of E-Gold as a more legitimate service.

E Bullion owner killed . Will this affect PTE?
The Los Angeles Times has reported the death of the co-owner of E-Bullion, 45 year-old Pamela Fayed.
On August 2nd her husband was taken into custody for fraud by the FBI. Now parking garage cameras have identified the vehicle leaving the scene as coming from a rental car agency that James Fayad's credit card was used for the rental. I have a page devoted to this here. http://www.detailshere.com/ebullionfiasco.htm and will keep it updated as more information becomes available. Does this mean the demise of E Bullion?? It's too early to tell. Meanwhile I am taking no more funds in for PTE via ebullion until we can determine if ebullion will survive or we have to change processors. QLx3 has already changed processors. If we change processors I will probably lean towards SolidTrustPay although that is not for certain as of today. We have had NO loss of any funds in PTE in the past four years due to hackers using the E Bullion cryptocarded system which is very safe. I do not want to abandon it unless we have to.

Hold your emails from August 10th to August 20th.
We will be incomunicado. Timing for this fiasco as well as the ASD problems is not good as we will be in transit from Russia back to Mexico for at least ten days of this month and will not be online to either receive or send information. I will not make the ebullion decision before arriving home. Irina received her Russian passport yesterday. It went from "nobody has been working on it" to "done in a few days" overnight. Last week her research showed it was still on the first person's desk and nothing had been done with it for a three week period of time. She wrote a letter to the secretary of internal affairs, not criticizing anyone but asking why no progress and included a copy of our plane tickets of when we were leaving showing timing was critical. All of a sudden dominos started to fall and it was done in a matter of days. At the end they asked her to write another letter back to the secretary stating that everything had been taken care of satisfactorily, which she did. He must wield a big club.

I will be glad to return home. Russia is interesting and very frustrating at the same time. It is like taking a step back in time. A loooong ways back in time. Some things are very archaic. Priorities are not in order. Stores are filled with expensive luxury items - clothes, shoes, $300 purses, male up and perfumes, cellphones, Ipods, leather goods - while necessities wain. Grocery stores are half liquor and cigarettes. There will be five coolers of cold beer and no soda pop. There isn't one twentieth of the grocery goods here as would be found in a small store back home let alone a WalMart or Costco or Sam's Club.
The flea market produce is very expensive. For one large grocery sack here I can fill my whole car back at the abastos in Mexico. I could never afford to keep the Mezcala family in food at these prices. We were invited to a trip to the larger city of Khazan. We went to a new mall there but found the same materialistic stores and lack of anything practical. I guess when people all live in apartments they don't need Home Depots. Mexico may not have everything you need (just try to find a 3/4" copper sweat check valve for example) but they have streets and streets of stores with useable stuff; and they have big malls with materialism too.

It is difficult here to bring the people the good news of the Gospel. Most don't believe in God at all let alone that a Jesus, as God in human form, came to earth to die for their sins. What? Tell me another fairy tale. I have a document on my website at www.detailshere.com/parachute.htm that tells people why they need Jesus. Telling people how good God is has little impact, telling them how real and bad hell is, seems to be more meaningful to today's crowd. Most people don't understand hell is real and exists today and satan gets a lot of people there by default. I have the 26 page document in English and Spanish we hand out and Irina finished it in Russian, weaning it to 16 pages.

We print about 100 copies every day on dad's laser printer here and go hand them out. It's an 8 page handout on both sides for a 16 page booklet. As the Mormons and Jehovah's witnesses know, evangelizing can be brutal. For every person we find willing to listen we are shunned by five other's. One guy today told Jana and I he would save himself, he didn't need Jesus. Other people simply won't take the handout after they see the title (Parachute of Salvation). Some tell us no one who is Christian here gives anything out for free, it all has strings attached. The Greek Orthodox church is God here and is immersed in idolatry and mariology and saintology. They have temples that would probably put Solomon's to shame loaded with stuff that violates the second commandment. Stores inside the churches themselves selling everything from rings to necklaces to pictures to statues. What did Jesus do when He caught merchants selling stuff in His Father's temple? Muslims even charge people to enter their churches. I wonder what God thinks about that. We tried to put an ad in the newspaper to schedule a seminar/discussion and were told we had to have it approved by the Orthodox church before they would print it. I have to give Irina an A for balls and tenacity though; she even invited an Orthodox priest here to do voice on part of her dvd she is making for her people after she ran out of guinea pigs using mom's friends of the family. I guess they had quite an interesting four hours without doing any major battles. He was very patient with her and agreed with her on many points about scripture but he has to support his church's stand here if he wants to serve God. He was a pretty smart cookie really. No room for independent thinking here though. Hey, if this were the middle ages, we would have been burned at the stake by now as many of those people were for beliefs not supported by the church, either Orthodox or Catholic. We have been run out of shops here telling us to take our Jesus propaganda elsewhere. They focus on religion and doctrines and ceremony just like the pharisees of old, but not on the only individual who can save them from hell, Jesus. A friend of the family took us to visit a huge ancient Orthodox monastery an hour from here where she took bottles to be filled with healing water; but she doesn't believe in Jesus??? Who does she think is providing the healing power in the water? Even at dinner when a really nice college professor and his family came over, and his 17 year old daughter knew English well so we could get a lot of points across; it was quite apparent they didn't believe in God and Jesus had no place in their lives. We brought up many examples and parables from the Bible to show that Jesus is alive today and works miracles today, but it was like talking to the wall. Each discussion was met with a change of subject. But, some take the handout and ask questions. We have had some good discussions along the way too. But for most part, we feel these people are in deep trouble. Jana, Irina, and I are hitting up all the small shops where the storekeepers have slack time with nothing to do; called a captive audience to hand out the brochures. We hit the flea market ten blocks away but ran out of brochures long before we ran out of booths. We make 100 a day. It takes one toner cartridge for dad's laser printer and 1 ream of paper to make 100 copies so cost is only about $16/hundred which isn't bad. We take the toner cartridge to get it refilled every morning. I bought a second one so we alternate. Takes about four hours of labor each day though to print and fold and staple the hundred copies. They wanted $75/hundred to do it in the shop. I don't think so. I haven't healed anyone yet by laying hands on them but never quit trying. I gotta get better at praying and maybe stop looking at so many short skirts and ten legs here. We had a good chance in the eye clinic the other day where we went with grandma for a checkup and there was a little boy who had a huge sty on his eyelid and it was really swollen all around it. After the doctor saw him the mother was in tears; I don't know what the prognosis was. God spoke to me in thought and told me to lay hands on him, but when we tried the parents would have nothing to do with it and packed him off down the stairs. They don't know Jesus heals today. He doesn't heal everyone, He may not heal at that instant, but He heals through His disciples today. I am witness to it. We are scheduled to fly out of here on the 12th of August. Can't wait to get home in San Miguel. Different breed of people here. They are strangers amongst themselves, shopkeepers are matter of fact, no smiles, what do you want , give me your money and get out of here and don't lean on my counter. Buses are loaded with zombies and frowns; no interaction amongst the people as in Mexico. No friendliness outside of immediate family friends. Drinking and smoking are rampant. On the boulevard each evening where everyone goes, it's a long parkway people walk on, every other person has a bottle of beer or vodka in their hand and a cigarette in their mouth. Grocery stores are half liquor and cigarettes. Many stores have five coolers of beer and wine and no coolers of soda pop. The worst thing here is there are no tacos, burritos, or even taco chips. Pizza is worse than Dominos. Pimenia, pimenia, pimenia (potstickers). Bakery goods are worse than in Mexico. If you don't like sausage and beer here, you are in trouble. Oh for a roasted chicken with that special marisol pepper sauce and tortillas and salsa from the chickenman down the street. I can taste it now. We did find a roasted chicken place in Moscow but it didn't taste like the chicken man's. They do have good cherry juice though. I live on cherry juice and orange juice, although it is nothing like the fresh squeezed back home. Weather has been reasonable here, going from hot and humid, to just right and rains come. Moscow just had a one day rain that gave them their whole month's worth, a record since 1910 I am told. Just so you know, if you had Russia on your vacation list.

Oceanside Wealth
www.oceansidewealth.com/detailshere
Membership fee is $60/mo. In actuality, 6 people under you gets you into profit in the matrix...which handily covers the membership fee. The best guess right now is that we will have close to 10,000 people coming in the first month. Getting in early, there's a VERY high probability of spillover. The program is projected to produce a 10% to 20%/mo return which means $400 of your investment up front is required to pay your monthly membership costs ($400 x 15%ave = $60) unless you get in early and the 2 x 10 matrix pays for it monthly. There is still time to do that.

There's no surfing here as this is not a surf site. This is REAL forex trading. The difference here is that as members, we get to see the trading taking place in real-time sometimes...and daily charts to show the trading activity that has taken place. Historical data suggests a 10-20% monthly return. Their lowest month was 3%....their highest was 45%. This is over a 15 month-tracked period of time.

The first webinar to discuss everything is scheduled for Saturday August 9th 10am PST.
The call will be an opportunity, information, news, and updates call. We will open the call up for questions at the end. We have huge industry leaders that have joined and even some that have retired from network marketing and have decided to get back involved because they see where our company is headed in just a short period of time! Also, anyone that has not paid yet, please log into your back office and follow the instructions to do so. We will be compressing the non-paying members soon and we don''t want to see anyone lose their position,Space is limited.
Reserve your Webinar seat now at: https://www1.gotomeeting.com/ register/443059009

Golden Panda
www.detailshere.com/goldenpanda.htm
AsdCashGenerator
www.detailshere.com/asdcashgenerator.htm
LaFuente Dinero
www.detailshere.com/asdcashgenerator.htm
MrsVIP
www.detailshere.com/mrsvip.htm

I can no longer post the math for the real net profit earnings for these programs on the net but can discuss it with you one on one, email or by phone, if you are interested. There's some real surprises
when you do the math and consider all the factors. See my discussion on ad surfs in general and the
new kid on the block, INET, below.

Ad Surf Programs and the new kid on the block, INET Global.
As you are surely aware , three of the above ad surfing programs have been temporarily closed by SEC while SEC tries to determine if they are a ponzi or not. The concept is good but the question that has to be answered is, are revenues being taken in outside of people signing up and buying ad packs to support the system? Or are we just trading dollars with the owners taking half of what is coming in? The bottom one above, Mrs. what's her name, does have those contracts with large companies; I'm not sure about the other three, and I doubt the new kid on the block, INET, has any either. The companies that SEC has frozen are concentrating on you making money by referring others. The people who only put in $300 and now have an 80K account got there by reaping referral money. You make less than a 7%/mo net profit on your own dollar in the ones that SEC is currently looking at. They operate identically to the INET system which is described below. In INET there is a membership level join fee (up to $998) plus a monthly membership fee of $40/mo on top of that is required to earn anything. Do you have any idea how much money you would have to have in there to cover a $40 /mo membership fee for 4 months with only a 125 day length of time your principal is good for? You can find out further down.

NO ONE will earn even 6.25%/mo in INET on their own accord. That's why the word is refer, refer,
refer and the referral commissions are so high. Even a $500 spend will earn nothing on it's own and in fact be in the hole in four months.

$500 in ad packages earns 25% or $125 in four months by surfing every day.
four months of $40/mo membership fees costs the guy $160 to get paid his $125 profit. He suffers a $35 loss with no profit. And that's not counting the initial join fee which needs to be subtracted out of there also.

$1000 in ad packages earns 25% or $250 in four months by surfing every day.
Four months of $40/mo membership fees costs the guy $160 of his $250. At least he makes a profit of $90 in four months but $90 ÷ 4mo = only a $22.50net profit/mo ÷ $1000 principal yields only a 2.25%/mo net profit. Would you join a forex club that only delivered 2.25%/mo? And that doesn't include subtracting out the initial join fee either.

$2000 in ad packages earns 25% or $500 in four months by surfing every day.
Four months of $40/mo membership fees costs the guy $160 of his $500. At least he makes a profit of $340 in four months but $340 ÷ 4mo = only a $85net profit/mo ÷ $2000 principal yields only a 4.25%/mo net profit. And that doesn't include subtracting out the initial join fee either.

$5000 in ad packages earns 25% or $1250 in four months by surfing every day.
Four months of $40/mo membership fees costs the guy $160 of his $1250. At least he makes a profit of $1090 in four months but $1090 ÷ 4mo = only a $272.50net profit/mo ÷ $5000 principal yields only a 5.45%/mo net profit. hmmmmm.

If you would put your $5000 into Mrs What's her name as a diamond you would be earning a 16.5% /mo net profit including all fees and expenses accounted for and still be getting the 10% off your referrals and not have had to put up a $998 join fee to boot. . hmmmmm. Isn't that interesting.

Initially in INET they were not going to give the free member any rebates back, only a 2% referral fee and then charge him a 2.5% withdrawal fee on top of that. Now the free member gets 50% of his purchase back in rebates, still only a 2% referral commission on first level only and still a 2.5% withdrawal fee. Don't do me any favors. There is no incentive to join as a free member. He will operate at a loss unless he has a huge referral network.

I NET is a big deception as people think they are making a profit of 1%/day when in fact they are earning two tenths of one percent a day only in profit. The other 8 tenths of one percent is simply their principal being returned. The average person who cannot refer here will not make money here. Think $100/$125 = 4/5th = 80 percent is MY own money being returned to me. Only $25/$125 = 1/5th = 20% is profit.
And that doesn't account for their huge initial membership fees.

Let's again consider a $1000 spend in INET.

The thousand dollars disappears the day you buy the $1000 in ad packs. You are buying advertising with your money. You are trading dollars for hits to the site you select to advertise. At the end of day one you only have a $10 rebate to show for your $1000 even though your $1000 will make you another ten dollars the next day. But that $1000 is not now cashoutable, and completely disappears at the end of the 125 days. At the end of 125 days you only get back 125% of what you purchased in ad packs at 1%/day for 125 days, 4 months, and that includes the 100% you put in up front. That's $1250.

You don't end up with $2250 at the end of that 125 days like many assume, you have only gotten back a total of $1250 delivered at the rate of $10/day for 125 days and of that $1000 was your own money to start with. If you did not buy new ad packs with that money every day it comes out to a 6.25%/mo net profit gain. If you do buy new ad packs every day it comes out to a 6.917%/mo net profit gain.

Look at it as a car lease. You give $1000 cash to the car dealer who leases a car to you with an additional benefit of .....if you will drive the car around town for 20 minutes every day with his magnetic signs on the doors, he will give you back 125%of the whole lease cost that you had to pay up front; at the rate of 1%/day for 125 straight days or 4 months and five days. You got the use of the car for the contract period of 125 days for your $1000 lease purchase (advertising that sent other people to look at your own site). At the end of that contract period you had to turn the car back in. It was no longer yours to use. You have to start a new contract and put another $1000 on the table. That old contract expires. You got your original $1000 lease cost back (it took 100 days to get that part back but you got it back.) Plus you got a bonus of 25%/more than your lease amount on top of that for driving around each day with the signs on it (surfing your sites each day). You got the use of the car (advertising for your own website) and you made 25%/mo extra for a 4 months period over the cost of that lease. What was the worth of using the car (advertising for your own site) at the same time you received the additional rebate of 25%? INET and the otehr similar programs says the worth of that was your $1000 you spent in ad packs to advertise your own site. Plus the dealer told us we could earn additional rebates by telling our friends to lease a car there also and we would get a cut of whatever lease amount they contracted for. And if we are willing to pay a membership fee that cut is increased and is based upon whichever membership fee amount we choose.

Most ad surfs have done an extremely good job of burying and hiding the real net worth of their programs. The truth is, the real money to be made in INET and others is made by referring others and reaping the 10% of their investment that you are being paid on. The person that refers no one is simply wondering where his 30%/mo profit is he thinks he is getting, mostly because he is too dumbed down by watching Simpsons, shoot 'em up movies, sex and and sports games on the boob tube and no longer has the intelligence to do simple math and figure it out for himself. American's intelligence is being shown in both loser presidential candidates they are about to select instead of selecting the only one that will work for America whom the news media has buried. America is headed for a fall no matter which of these two guys is selected.

I cannot participate in this program unless the free membership earns the same as the other four memberships and the 2.5% withdrawal fee is completely removed at that level. It is a sin not to
tell people the real "lack of earnings" this program has associated with it.

The only people that will make any money with this program are the heavy referrers, and they will do so by not telling their people the truth. What part of the Mrs whats her name diamond level program don't you understand where you can earn some very good money of your own accord. E mail me for the numbers if you can't figure them out. You can earn three times there compared to INET or the ones under SEC investigation. It's our job to lead our flocks to things that make real money, not lead them to the cliffs of deception. Inet is for the referrer. The average person will not make money here. You can only make money referring others here. And chances are very good SEC will come after them also, because it is a referral based program and requires a join fee to make money on others. See www.detailshere.com/ponzipyramid.htm for how SEC looks at this game. INET added the free member category to get around the three rules but essentially the free member loses money instead of gaining money unless he refers others and cashes in on their deposits. They are hanging out there until they give the free member the same privileges as the paid subscribers.

INET is different in their monthly fee is the same for all upgraded membership levels. The initial join fee is what differentiates how much you will make on referrals instead of a different monthly fee.

Are you beginning to see why these programs don't want anybody talking about numbers and the math? The 30%/mo sign at 1%/day they hang in front of your face is a fictional piece of art. It doesn't represent actual profit. The only big earnings are coming from referring others , make no mistake about it.

let's say you have been doing your sponsor thing and now have $7500 in one of these programs, most of which was referral fees you rebought ad packages with. And you are at the highest membership category. $7500 looks impressive. The real numbers. First remember only $1500 of that is real profit
( only 20% of your account value represents profit, the rest is your own money) IF you could cash it out. 20% of $7500 is only $1500. $7500 x 25% profit over 125 days is $1875 gross profit.
Say membership cost was $400 for those 4 months
So that's really $1475 net profit ÷ 4mo = $368.75/mo net profit ÷ $7500 principal = 4.92%/mo net profit.

Interesting. Yet, the lemmings think they are taking the world by storm with a 30%/mo program.

$7500 put into Mrs what's her name could earn you better than 16.5%/mo net profit, over three times as much.

In defense of these program however, if you can refer others; I querried listserve owners who put in as little as $300 into this program who now have $80k accounts by rebuying ad packages everyday from mostly referral earnings. If you can refer get past the low net profit percentages and focus on total dollars earned. If you can't refer others. Stay at the lowest level and settle for the profit at that level.

In conclusion, consider this:
The big question that arises is what happens when people stop buying ad packs? When this system gets maxed out. Answer, the 1%/day figure starts dropping and then people are going to start cashing out instead of rebuying ad packs. What would you do if you had $40k or even $80k in there from rebuying ad packs every day for the past several months but all of a sudden the $400 (1% rebate) you anticipated wasn't showing up the next day? It was something less. That day will arrive. That $400 would represent all you had coming to show for your months of effort of surfing and rebuying ad packs. You only have money on the screen; it's not cashoutable. You have no principal as that was spent buying ad packs to advertise your site with. You are at the mercy of the system as the dominos start falling. Another thing that is happening is dilution. The cashcards INET site is just one out of many that will be coming down the pike trying to cash in on the ASD success. First it was ASD, then LaFuente, then Golden Panda and now INET and there will be more. Can we afford to join them all? All will probably have a super deal for the first month to get us hooked, like ASD with their 100% match, Golden Panda with their 3% for the first month plus 100% match, and INET with their 8% until it dwindles to 1% and 100% match. And SEC will be chasing all of them if they can't show contracts with businesses out side of the system. . Maybe ASD crossed their t's and dotted their i's. We don't know yet. It doesn't sound like this is going to be over with as soon as they had hoped. We should know more later this week.

With the new flood into INET, people still believe they are earning 1%/day instead of .2%/day which is actually net profit. I would be surprised if SEC doesn't address that issue. The company will not let you talk in 5th grade math terms like net profit because the legaleze jargon required to escape big brother's grasp will not allow it; new concept this buying advertising but the old concept of determining what you are really earning is still there. The other 8 tenths of that 1% is really your principal being returned to you although it is not called that and few actually understand that.
Two tenths of a percent profit for 30 days is only 6%/month net profit, 6.25% if you consider the whole 125 days as 4 months. If you bought new ad packages everyday with each day's earnings, that escalates to 6.917%/mo by compounding but at the end of the month you have nothing to show for it except ad packages on the screen; non cashoutable, except day at a time, each one of which is going to require a full 125 days to cash out with only a 25% profit - providing the rebated amount stays at 1%/day. That's the big question. When will the 1%/day be something less.
Ber

Interesting video on War Crimes being taken to MSNBC
http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/387.html

Weapons of mass destruction
Ever wonder if there ever were any? Here's the full skinny directly from the guy who found them
Scott Ritter- weapons of mass destruction fraud
http://www.brassche cktv.com/ page/382. html

Step right up...
Get your genuine government-issued
ID papers right here."
I am not a politician, but for the life of me I can't see why America is chasing two candidates set on burying America instead of choosing the only viable candidate who will work for us..
Barack Obama recently finished a $500,000 total overhaul of his 757. And as part of the new design, he decided to remove the American flag from the tail... What American running for President of the United States would remove the symbol of his country? And worse, he replaced the flag with it with a symbol of himself...Ron Paul provides some commentary on the national ID thing.
http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/389.html

It's all about trusting in God,
and cutting the rope. Everything is all about letting go...surely a difficult task for most. http://www.ticz. com/homes/ users/bob/ The-Rope/ The-Rope. htm

Thanks so much! From total dispair to being okay, at least temporarily
Why ? Because three more of you had enough heart to send him $20 or $30.
From Brighton Gundani in Zimbabwe:
Hie,,
I have just received another Check of US$20 from XXXX. We are so happy for the help. Thanks for all the help and many thanks to our Lord Jesus Christ. I can't even begin to describe how bad things were in our lives but what you have done for us is truly remarkable. My Wife , Euphrasia , asked me to thank you for helping us , she said this is faith in action and we are learning a lot. Our wish one day is to be part of a team which will help others in the world who would need help. The new currency is real money now, it is so beautiful. It is our prayer that the talks of the two opposition parties will yield fruit so that the zeros will not be back again.
Love and Hugs
Brighton

Besides sending Brighton a check at
Brighton Gundani
P O Box 1447
Marondera, Zimbabwe
Africa
You can also send paypal to his friend's account who can get cash there. That paypal account is
rchitumba@yahoo.com . Be sure to put in the memo box of the spend that it is for Brighton Gundani and email Brighton a copy of your spend to bgundani@yahoo.com

Tire hazard
How many of you watched the video and went out nd determined your tire age?
http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=4826897

John was in the fertilized egg business.

He had several hundred young layers
(hens), called 'pullets,'
and ten roosters to fertilize the eggs.

He kept records,
and any rooster not performing
went into the soup pot
and was replaced.

This took a lot of time,
so he bought some tiny bells
and attached them to his roosters.

Each bell had a different tone,
so he could tell from a distance,
which rooster was performing.

Now, he could sit on the porch
And fill out an efficiency report
by just listening to the bells.

John's favorite rooster, old Butch,
was a very fine specimen,
but this morning he noticed
old Butch's bell hadn't rung at all!

When he went to investigate,
he saw the other roosters were busy chasing pullets,
bells-a-ringing, but the pullets,
hearing the roosters coming,
could run for cover.

To John's amazement,
old Butch had his bell in his beak,
so it couldn't ring.

He'd sneak up on a pullet,
do his job and walk on to the next one.

John was so proud of old Butch,
he entered him in the Renfrew County Fair
and he became an overnight sensation
among the judges.

The result was the judges
not only awarded old Butch the No Bell Piece Prize
but they also awarded him the Pulletsurprise as well.

Clearly old Butch was a politician in the making.

Who else but a politician could figure out
how to win two of the most highly coveted awards
on our planet by being the best
at sneaking up on the populace
and screwing them
when they weren't paying attention.

Vote carefully this year,
the bells are not always audible.

God Bless

Doss-va-dan-ya (good bye)
Buenos dias,
que dios le bendiga,
Ber

"Oceanside Wealth"" will be the next Big real earning opportunity with Full proof to its members.

This program is similar in structure to V-lane Traffic, in that it has a front end 2x10

matrix you join, and on the back end it has a passive income vehicle.

The passive income vehicle in this case is an institutional-grade $60 million Forex

trading program that has been averaging 15-20% per month with some months doing

30%-40% for the last 10 months!

They have been doing live webinars and showing you their actual results, and how they

make their money.

So, for those of you who don't like the matrix component, just think of it as a monthly fee

you have to pay in order to participate in the passive side!

Do you know $500 compounded for 3 years at 20% per month will earn you $354,000?

You can just join with $60, and use your earnings to fund your Investment account

(Passive Side).

This program has been creating a lot of Buzz in the forums these past weeks. Mainly due

to the 2x10 community forced matrix.

This means that the first 2046 people will be placed automatically left to right all the way

down the first 10 levels. This will ensure that there are no open spots, and no one will get

left behind.

Because this matrix fills automatically all the way down, you will not have to sponsor \

anyone in order to earn from the first 4 levels of the matrix,

To give you an idea of how lucrative this matrix can be, if you are one of the lucky few

who gets in early I have enclosed the company matrix chart.

The matrix has been designed that you only have to pay the $60 one-time.

Once you have your first two levels full (just 6 people) you are in profit in the matrix!

Levels 2-10

02 $10

03 $50

04 $400

05 $80

06 $640

07 $320

08 $1,920

09 $2,560

10 $33,280

Earning you $40,000 per month!

Trust me, this matrix will fill very fast, so you are going to want to get in as soon as this

goes live!

The admin has predicted that they will have 10,000+ members by the end of the first 30

days and 30000+ members in 2 months.

I'm a little more conservative than that, and I'll just say that even if they only get 50%, we

have full matrices at that point!

All of us will be full through level 7-8 within 1-2 Months!

I will be joining under a very good heavy hitter, He will be sending his link to me to sign

up, and then I will send you the link to join immediately, as soon as it goes Live on

Saturday.

So you can be getting spillover not only from the Company, but from me and my Upline

too.

Your matrix will be fill up fast! The first 11 Levels are community filled. This OWS

program is already buzz on the Internet forums (more than 40,000 are interested in it right

now!)

Remember, people who joined MrsVip/V-Lane early are now earning 6 figure Incomes

every month.

This is a life changing opportunity, with just a $60 price tag.

If you are interested ... read on ..

Right now you can go to www.oceansidewealth.biz and look around.

Read the TERMS, the COMP PLAN and so on.

The mods have posted the following update on the ASA forum at http://www.asamonitor.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=10315

***Announcement***

Process for signup tomorrow-----

Upon your leadership/sponsor signing up tomorrow, they will be issued a link to forward to their team, friends, family mambers, etc. You will use this link and this link only to sign up! Once you have completed the signup process, you will be issued your own personal link to forward to your personally reffered members. They, in return, will sign up with your link. If you go to oceansidewealth.biz or oceansidewealth.com and try to sign up, it will just be a dead link for now.

It is very important that your sponsor has your email address and has it correct so they may issue you their sign up link. Also....ALL LEADERS/SPONSORS.....it will be in your best interest to create an email list today so you may enter your link into the body of an email and push one button to email it to your team!

A lot of you have asked a lot of questions about Oceanside Wealth and there are some good answers below:

1. They use an institutional grade Forex trading program (a robot software programme). Along with the many years of experience of their trader to bring you returns on your investment.

2. They will be posting monthly performance graphs along with doing live webinars so we can see the results.

3. They will also have a built in front-end matrix with a $60 per month membership fee.

4. You will then be able to add any amount in $100 increments on top of that to go into the program (ForEx trading)... There will be no maximum amount.

5. The corporate headquarters will be posted on the web site. No phone number.

6. There is never a promised set return per month, the hoped for average is 20%. The worst month was 3% and that was in April 2008.

7. They are a new Company. There are performance graphs from the software program that they are using for OW. This program has been around for 2 years (apparently $6 Million to license, see info below.)

What we know about the Trading program:

1. The software program that they use is 100% automated- meaning that they can set it and allow it to run on its own. It looks at 80-90 different signals before it makes a single trade and reacts to real life current events.

2. They have been using it and watching it live now for around 15 months and the WORST month was 3% in April of this year. The average has been right around 20% per month and the best month around 45%.

3. They have stop losses in place. These are set at 10% meaning that they will never be trading with more than 10% of the account. This makes it Impossible to lose more than 10% of the account at a time.

What we know about the people:

1. Jake from ASA has been in contact with this company for around 6 months. He has endorsed it as a good investment, which for many is enough to make it a buy.

2. The Company Admin in charge is J.D. The forum moderators and question answer people are leverageFx and xx

3. There is a Forex experienced Trader that we don’t know the name of yet.

What we know about the launch:

1. Saturday July 26, 2008 will be the day the company will open to signups for matrix spots. 10 AM EDT.

2. There is substantial buzz surrounding the launch and matrix. Experienced investors are also focused on the forex trading returns.

What we know about the Matrix:

1. It is going to be a community force filled matrix for the first ELEVEN (11) levels (OS is the top level, hence 11 total for the 2x10). After the 11th level is complete, it will turn into a regular forced matrix (js: meaning you have to fill it, with the help, if any, of leadership above you, within 10 levels).

2. Everyone must join the matrix before they can invest.

3. You can personally sign up a spouse, family member and anyone else from your computer.

4. No multiple spots in the matrix.

5. Your matrix fees can be paid with your interest earnings

6. The Company will be giving away Cadillac Escalade Hybrids and house bonuses. The matrix is designed so that it pays out 65% back to the members and the other 35% is used to pay for the Escalades!

What we know about the payment processors:

1. Payment processors will include: Solid Trust Pay, U got Cash, Strict Pay, and Alertpay. alert pay will be used for the 1st month only

2. Everyone has to have their own payment processor account in order to sign up at launch.

3. There will be an option for you to send funds from OW member to OW member in your back office.

4. Multiple accounts are not allowed, however signups from the same IP address is ok.

5. The interest will be available for withdrawal on a monthly basis.

6. We can join with one payment processor but have our earnings deposited to another.

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SIGN UP INSTRUCTIONS

Go to http://www.oceansidewealth.com/detailshere to sign up

All you need to do when you join is type in the username of your sponsor.

My username will be - detailshere

Make sure you send your username and this message to your contacts asap.

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MATRIX QUESTIONS

Many of you have questions about the matrix. I cannot explain the mechanics
of the community filled matrix and/or the team matrix any better than it is
explained in the forum. Here is a direct link to the matrix thread....

http://www.asamonitor.com/ forum/index.php?showtopic= 10473

Watch for another update tomorrow.

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