Profitable Sunrise updated 4-8-2013
I won't be giving out a sign
up link for this program until this SEC mess is resolved.
The site is down because Roman has moved the money and the servers to another
location.
Ber's info on this page
3-27-2013
update
3-26-2012 update
3-23-2013 update
3-22-2013 update
Important Profitable Sunrise Update
4-4-2013 Update
http://youtu.be/6CK2RbjllAU
While many continue to bad mouth
ProSun, here is an analysis of the website itself.
The website is registered up through 2017. It is registered and active. It is
using a
DDOS protection service to not get hacked. The analysis shows a server migration
is in progress.
And it is registered at .com, .net, .org, .info, .biz, and .us
IMHO he wouldn't got through all this trouble if he were bailing out on
us. Have patience.
3-27-2013 update
Ber's
info on this page
More info on the Profitable Sunrise investigation can be found at
http://www.profitablesunriseinvestigation.com/
If you haven't noticed there are a lot of potshots being taken at
Profitable Sunrise of late. The
North Carolina SEC filed a cease and desist on them. Now what jurisdiction they
think they
have over a European company is beyond me. The Alabama SEC joined in with a
warning
to everyone that ProSun was selling unregistered securities. ProSun is simply a
loan program.
You loan them money and they pay you interest on that loan. That isn't a
security. Government
goes out of their way to prevent any common people from getting money. Our
corrupt government
knows no limits in that regard. Roman retaliated with a policy of no longer
paying out withdrawals
via ecurrency processors but only through bankwires so people couldn't avoid
taxes as your bank
accounts are open targets by IRS. The real reason is probably so government
can't freeze large
amounts in e currency processors like they did Zeek. The last 2k chunk of change
Payza kept of mine
from Zeek was finally sent to SEC, never to be seen again. I think this was a
smart move on
Roman's part. The only downside of that move is there is a minimum of $200
to withdraw, and
it takes 15 days to get your money via bankwire now instead of within the hour. If you are
not yet
in profit, he will still pay you via ecurrency processor until you are. I could live with that
. But then
I got an email that stated Profitable Sunrise is registered to a woman living in an
offshore tax haven,
Seychilles, who was also linked to nearly 180 shell companies. It
is registered to Inter Reef
Ltd in Birmingham, England. Roman Novak is
listed as the founder and chief executive on the
website, but company records show the sole director and shareholder of Inter
Reef Ltd is a
45-year-old woman who lives in the Seychelles. The
small island nation is renowned as a
tax haven in which to incorporate companies. Agnes
Jouaneau is listed as the director of 35
other companies registered to the same Birmingham address in the UK, as is
Profitable Sunrise,
which is a small
office block containing two accounting firms. Profitable
Sunrise claims the company manages $400 million of bridging loans, but the records show assets of only £1 since Inter
Reef was
incorporated in September 2011. It is now considered "dormant" by
British authorities.
Now I am NOT saying ProSun is a scam. We all know big brother takes down many
legitimate
businesses simply to steal their money. Usually they wait until significant
funds are involved
to go after it. I have horror stories of quite a few people I knew who operated
legitimate businesses government took down. This forces people to
circumvent government and upfront legalities
and set up business through LLC's and offshore corporations and shell companies
and tax
havens so government won't meddle in their business. If Roman were doing bridge
loans I
am sure that NONE of his high profile customers would want any notoriety or
contact outside
of his dealings with them personally. With that , then there is no proof of
these loans taking place
at all. Don't ask, you ain't gonna never get it.
We all know that just as with Cherry Shares, Cash Tanker, GNI and NewGNI and
others that the
name of the game is only put in what you can afford to lose, get your principal
back out as soon as possible and play with their money from then on and ride it
until government succeeds in bringing
it down or they fail. Whether it is a real business, a scam or a ponzi,
eventually all the high payers
will fail. Paul Halleaux with CashClub21 paid 14-15%/mo on real arb trading,
even showing us the
trades that made the money. I believe that was real. NewGNi at 24%/mo
would have been much
more believable if they had made 15%/mo their upper limit. Have we all
just fallen for a pig in a
poke here? I have a lot more information that makes me feel Profitable Sunrise
was legit than the
few emails I have received recently calling it a fraud. But until all this
settles out, I feel we need to
be very careful. I strongly suggest any of you considering joining
Profitable Sunrise wait and see
how this is going to turn out as new information
will surely be forthcoming, good or bad. For the rest ,
you might consider shutting compounding
off until we see how this is going to turn out.
I joined this because I have three very strong upline people who have direct
contact with Roman
and have provided me considerable information on how ProSun operates over and
above what
is shared on the net. My direct upline had phone conversation with Roman on 3-12
and the call
was very positive. Roman has his attorneys working to resolve the NC issues and
is aware of
all that is being said. Ultimately
because they are offshore it does not mean a lot but has to be
dealt with and will be.
The Easter
gift will be ok and there is great opportunity with new projects after Easter
but he
did not go into details.
(outside of delays due to bankwire only withdrawals now) all is biz as usual,
ACCORDING TO ROMAN.
According
to www.profitablesunriseinvestigation.com
that may very well not be true. Ironically,
I know of no one who was not paid on time by Profitable Sunrise. There is
absolutely no mention
of people not being paid in these allegations.
IMPORTANT:
It was requested that NO new deposits be made using STP or bank wires or any
other outside means of deposit into a ProSun account at this time. It is
OK to go ahead and make withdrawals and OK to do a gift transfer of funds
internally within ProSun if you have existing referral and family
accounts. No new money should be deposited to be in harmony with the SEC
Cease and Desist Order.
It is not just a matter due to N. Carolina, but
the SEC is a national agency. Otherwise one could be in danger of
violating the SEC C&D order and bring attention to yourself if anyone were
to refer, that is, to promote the ProSun program to new members and/or to
deposit NEW outside funds into the program account. Nanci Jo Frazer's
private group had shutdown new signups into that group until at least April 1st
to get the SEC C&D Order resolved, hopefully in our favor.
What we can do is COMPOUND and, REINVEST earnings, and request to WITHDRAW,
payment of funds, via the bank wire. We could GIFT transfer to another
existing member account in ProSun program. Those are things that we can
do. I know be able to hear the replay of the call soon, and if there is anything
else that would be helpful or necessary to be shared, I will pass along any
additional new details to you to share with others. For now, it is well
for everyone to lay low and just wait till the SEC issue is cleared up, that is,
no new outside funds to be deposited and no new referrals. Since Roman was
given 30 days, maybe that issue will be resolved by or before that time (April
1st).
Stay tuned.
This is a quote from BllAcKsHaDoW @ MMG Forum
FACEBOOK UPDATE OF PS :
*** Tonights Call High-Lights =) ***
Here are my notes for the same call… Hope this helps !
Call by Mike Artis and TonyConference call Summary:
We are ALL GOOD!!!
This is based on several calls within the last 24 hours with people I’ve spoken to… whom spoke with Roman.
We are about to go back up
Are servers are up… all 6 main servers are working…New website will be similar
and all our accounts will be with in new site.Easter gift is good !
Best guess is some time this weekend by Sunday night… Before Monday compounding starts.
We will be called a Private International Business Community, with a new definition as to how we represent ourself.Servers are in two very safe places to address security issues Hong Kong is the safest places to be!
Chatter about negative info on us is wrong… We haven’t done anything wrong and we are changing to comply.
Roman is making it better, give him credit…
Lots of rumors are impacting
a really good people There are no facts or evidence we are not doing anything wrong. We are not selling securities. We are a group of individuals with strong values and purpose. We are not going to be pushed around or bullied by media Gurus.Expect more restrictions with in company…
These corrections that are currently taking place have already been in the works, prior to the issues at hand.
Let’s look forward to this weekend and the new web-site.
Next weeks Confrence call, we can compare notes of the new system. Again, all is good !Profitable Sunrise is not falling apart… Or taken down…
Look forward to a promising future
Bank wire will be the only way to transfer funds… We’ll see when sight is back up about E currency options.
Where are our funds? Funds are in loans and how the interest is paid out.
What about Easter Gift?
Easter Gift will be in available balance.They are also working on E-check system
Interest will be paid for all banking days we were off line.
May be changing name… because no advertising allowed and to avoid all adds and banners that are currently out there already.
Empty accounts may be gone…
Won’t know until site is back up.Here is our latest update -- it's a LONG one, but maybe it will help you :
We were very excited to learn this week that the ProSun website domain was purchased by someone in China. We believe that this person / business might be one of Roman's customers.
New Bank:
Due to the increasing problems with the Czechoslovakia bank, Roman's Chinese client is helping Roman move to a Hong Kong bank. Roman is working on a debit card and a e-checking system to facilitate withdrawals. We understand that only bank wires might be allowed for withdrawals.
Servers:
He and told us that he was going to be upgrading, since our old servers were totally maxed out. Roman moved the servers to Hong Kong in order to protect us and ProSun. The servers are safe, and our data is safe. The 36 - 48 hours sent out by a support person referred to 8-hour business days. We expect the servers to be up and running very soon. One leader recently posted that the servers would be up late Sunday night, but we have not been able to verify that with Roman.
New Website:
We understand that the current programs in place will remain the same. Roman plans to introduce new programs after the Easter Gift has been issued. We heard this afternoon that the website release has been delayed a bit because Roman is address several security issues from the original website: 1) Hackers can easily reset your passwords; 2) you all of a sudden cannot log in; 3) no double opt-in for secret words, 4) no second confirmation for email address etc. We believe that Roman will protect our Available cash. Double opt ins when you sign up. Possible new name and different business structure. We may or may not have daily benefits accruing during down time. We truly believe that the daily benefits have been calculated.
Support:
Roman currently has 120 support staff - 70 for loans, 50 for PS. He will be tripling the support staff in the next few weeks, so that he can better serve us. The must have their high school bachelors masters degree, and speak up to five languages Roman will be assigning 3 dedicated account managers for our community. This should help us resolve our outstanding community problems quickly. When the website comes up, we ask that only those with outstanding issues email support. All others, please wait 48 hours before you send them an email to allow for the support staff to catch up. Our own support team will have the right to refuse to help you if your behavior is unbecoming.
New password to the back office of NJFGlobal Group.
Due to recent security breaches, we have had to change the password: successnow
During a recent interview Nanci conducted with Roman, Roman commented on the following:
Investors:
Roman told us recently that his loan portfolio is now 600 million. Our total group participation represents only 5% of his total loan portfolio! Meaning, he doesn't need us to do his business, but he wants to help us, bless us. This is why we are considered to be his charitable arm. We were never allowed to be an investor. Investors needed 200-500K. They were not part of a group, but were friends of his, who became co-owners. We are not co-owners. The other 95% who are investors are the only co-owners. Some states now refer to Roman's activity as a violation of SEC rules and regulations. Therefore, the program model that we have seen in the past might not function in the same way when the new website is released.
Loans Applications:
95% of the loan applications they receive are rejected. The #1 reason: Roman doesn't know them. people who has referred people he knows will receive loans.The only people who can apply are
Depositors:
Roman will not meet with anyone who has not put in 100K. Roman's investors have to be approved before the meeting
Clients / Borrowers:
Working with a big manufacturer in Asia as client for one of his bridge loans. The Long Haul was formed to create stability. Only has had 2 defaults in the past year. Verification takes only 2 to 3 days. Support:
Roman currently has 120 support staff - 70 for loans, 50 for PS. He will be tripling the support staff in the next few weeks, so that he can better serve us. The must have their high school bachelors masters degree, and speak up to five languages Roman will be assigning 3 dedicated account managers for our community. This should help us resolve our outstanding community problems quickly. When the website comes up, we ask that only those with outstanding issues email support. All others, please wait 48 hours before you send them an email to allow for the support staff to catch up. Our own support team will have the right to refuse to help you if your behavior is unbecoming or demanding.
New password to the back office of NJFGlobal Group.
Due to recent security breaches, we have had to change the password to access the links on the left side of Nanci's www.njfglobalgroup.com website Please pass this on ONLY to people you know - successnow
We hope this helps calm any fears, and replace those thoughts with thoughts of peace and trust,
God bless,
GIR Alliance Admin