Profitable Sunrise  updated 4-8-2013
I won't be giving out a sign up link for this program until this SEC mess is resolved.
The site is down because Roman has moved the money and the servers to another location.

Ber's info on this page

4-8-2013 update

4-4-2013  update

3-27-2013 update

3-26-2012 update

3-23-2013 update

3-22-2013 update  

4-8-2013 update

Important Profitable Sunrise Update

 
To Fellow Members of the Circle of Excellence,
 
We are very sad to have to inform you that it is now time to face the facts; Profitable Sunrise is not coming back. The servers have been completely shut down and are all off-line, Roman Novak and his brother have disappeared without a trace and the US government has initiated legal proceedings against Profitable Sunrise including freezing their bank accounts.
 
Now, some of you may want to fire off a nasty email to us in response to this; we kindly ask that you please refrain from doing so. xxxxx and I are just as devastated as you are. We had our hopes and dreams pinned on this program and now all of those hopes have been dashed.
 
 Subject: Profitable Sunrise News
Date: Mon, April 08, 2013 8:03 am
Hi folks,
 
We've all been hanging on to a sliver of hope that Profitable Sunrise would come back bigger and better than ever. It wasn't your usual dissappearing act that we are used to with other programs so it gave us hope that possibly circumstances were preventing Roman from coming back online. I do think now that's it's time to turn the page and move on. He hasn't made any attempt to contact the group leaders, the servers are now completely shut down and the govt is attempting to freeze his offshore bank accounts.
 
http://www.sec.gov/litigation/litreleases/2013/lr22666.htm 
 
If I get any worthwhile news to share I certainly will.
 

4-4-2013 Update
http://youtu.be/6CK2RbjllAU
While many continue to bad mouth ProSun, here is an analysis of the website itself. 
The website is registered up through 2017. It is registered and active. It is using a 
DDOS protection service to not get hacked. The analysis shows a server migration is in progress.
And it is registered at .com, .net, .org, .info, .biz, and .us
IMHO he wouldn't got through all this trouble if he were bailing out on us.  Have patience.

3-27-2013 update

Even though the updates may state otherwise, no one has heard from Roman since the website went down, not Nanci Jo, not anyone. Some of the Group Leaders may have spoken with Roman prior to the website going down but not afterwards. The website had been down at least once before for upgrades or maintenance but not for this long.

On the Tuesday night call, two individuals had reported receiving a bank wire. One of them said that it was her upline who had received a bank wire which was requested back on March 5th. The other person said that he had requested a bank wire on March 6th that had arrived into his account the other day on March 26th. . Could it mean that Roman is paying people old requests while working on the "new" site?

People are grasping at whatever sign to try and find a reason to believe that ProSun will return. Two things are known: Roman did selectively pay some accounts with ecurrencies before the site went down and other accounts got the message to only withdraw via bank wire, that is, some could still withdraw to STP and others could not. Then the site went down in the early morning hours of Thursday, March 14, and has been down for nearly two weeks. The general consensus is that Roman has until Monday, April 1st, to bring the site back up and pay the Easter Gift, or he has in short taken our money and closed the program.
 
Personally, I had found the statement that Roman has a staff of 120 working for him split between his loan business and the ProSun charitable arm as incredible. There is no real office address to be found for Roman Novak. He is not at that address location in Birmingham, England. We do not know for certain if Roman Novak is his real name. Just the facts.

There are numerous HYIPs that claim to do FOREX trading or Sports Arbitrage trading, and Roman claimed to do Bridge Loans, but each of those income scenarios could have been just made up story lines. Nanci Jo believed him but may not have checked his credentials thoroughly. Some have said that the Long Haul may have been a Red Flag that Roman was short on cash to pay the daily earnings and 3 level commissions so that he created that Long Haul program to rake in more money that he would not need to payout for several months. It may be that the abc folks putting pressure on the program made for an easy exit and an excuse for him to take down the site. He may have since been emptying the STP and other ecurrency accounts. The two or other bank wires having been sent may have been from the end of a process that had been started earlier. Who knows.

Of course, we would like a good paying program not to end. Just like the New GNI program had paid for about one year and then suddenly came to an end just before or after the holidays. It may be that Profitable Sunrise appeared to be founded on high ideals, but it could have been smoke and mirrors to attract the Christians and humanitarians among the HYIPers to deposit funds into his program.

All HYIPs are a gamble. The fact that a ministry group, Focus Up Ministries, recommended ProSun as being safe probably brought numerous new members into the program. If a program has been paying consistently, each must decide how much money you have that you would be willing to lose / to risk if in case the program would come to an end. Of course, even those who were in profit in ProSun are not happy to be unable to make any more money from that once paying income resource. It is a tough time during this recession. The question is will Roman bring the website back and start paying again.

My analysis is this -- Roman would bring the website and program back and start paying again if he had sufficient funds to pay the Easter Gift and if it would be advantageous to HIM to bring the program back. Roman or whoever he may be was in the program to make money for himself. If new money would keep coming in, I had thought that maybe it could last up until the first Long Haul accounts would have begun to mature in October / November later this year. I had thought that maybe the program would end just before the Long Haul 240 day accounts would need to be paid, giving folks time to earn on the Private accounts.

Unless it would be advantageous for Roman himself to bring the program back and start paying again, I do not expect to see the website back up especially after the lack of communication with Nanci Jo and others. A GIR update came out yesterday and today stating that there was no new news. People would need to come back down to earth sooner or later. Give the program until April 1st to see if the site returns. If it does not, see what else is out there and be cautious on how much you put into any of these programs. Some folks made a good bit in ProSun and others lost thousands. I would like to see ProSun return and maybe pay a few months longer. I did have some doubts that he could pay the Long Haul. Maybe he could have paid the Easter Gift. We may never know due to the abc folks in NC, or who knows but miracles could yet happen. We have no choice to wait and see.


3-26-2013 update

We are excited to provide you with some critical updates.   We are very close to finalizing our partnership with our connection in China.   Our e-checking and debit card system is almost complete as well.   Please understand that servers were moved to Hong Kong to protect ProSun.   This ensures the safety of our data.   Our new 4% daily - 7 day program will be introduced after Easter payout which is coming near.   This is just another way for us saying thank you and allowing us to put more money in your pockets sooner.   Our support staff will also be growing massively to better serve our clients needs as business grows.
 
For those of you looking to deposit more money into ProSun.   Don't worry you will have this opportunity as servers come back up very soon.   We appreciate your patience.   We are doing our best to safely increase your savings and make you a happier person.   We are here to help you with anything and provide answers to all of the questions you may have. Have a Blessed Day, Roman Novak
 
April 1 is still the target Date - One week from Monday.  
Have a great Easter Week. God Bless,
More received on 3-26
Six company servers are now active and are working properly. This information comes directly from Tony, a group leader in direct contact with Roman Novak and other group leaders. A new private Profitable Sunrise website will launch. Participant accounts are all accounted for and intact. And we will describe ourselves as a Private International Business Community.
The Profitable Sunrise servers are now located in one of two safe places (Hong Kong) for security reasons. The new website that is coming will be similar to what we are accustomed to. The Easter Gift for the Long Haul program is on and will be paid on schedule.
The servers should be up late this Sunday night Eastern Time. The Profitable Sunrise website will have new definition. Guidelines to promote Profitable Sunrise and those that will be authorized to promote will be established later.
You can listen to the recorded call that this information was taken from at 605-475-4799 code 586492# then hit # again to listen to the call. There will be another conference call next Thursday, March 28th.
Chatter about negative info on us is wrong, we haven't done anything wrong and we are changing to make this Private Community even more compliant within any applicable laws.
Roman is making this program better and stronger; give him credit.
Lots of rumors are impacting really good people. There are no facts or evidence. We are not doing anything wrong. We are not selling securities. We are a group of individuals with strong values and purpose. We are not going to be pushed around self-appointed media gurus or online bullies.
Expect more restrictions within the company...These corrections that are currently taking place have already been in the works, prior to the issues at hand. Let's look forward to this weekend and the new website.
Profitable Sunrise is not falling apart... Or taken down...
Look forward to a promising future.
Bank wire will be the only way to transfer funds... We'll see when sight is back up about e-currency 
options. They are also working on E-check system.
Interest will be paid for all banking days we were offline.
May be changing name... no advertising allowed... avoiding all ads and banners that are currently 
out there already. Empty accounts may be gone... Won't know until site is back up.

Ber's info on this page
More info on the Profitable Sunrise investigation can be found at 
http://www.profitablesunriseinvestigation.com/ 

If you haven't noticed there are a lot of potshots being taken at Profitable Sunrise of late. The
North Carolina SEC filed a cease and desist on them. Now what jurisdiction they think they
have over a European company is beyond me. The Alabama SEC joined in with a warning
to everyone that ProSun was selling unregistered securities. ProSun is simply a loan program.
You loan them money and they pay you interest on that loan. That isn't a security. Government
goes out of their way to prevent any common people from getting money. Our corrupt government
knows no limits in that regard. Roman retaliated with a policy of no longer paying out withdrawals
via ecurrency processors but only through bankwires so people couldn't avoid taxes as your bank
accounts are open targets by IRS. The real reason is probably so government can't freeze large
amounts in e currency processors like they did Zeek. The last 2k chunk of change Payza kept of mine
from Zeek was finally sent to SEC, never to be seen again. I think this was a smart move on
Roman's part.  The only downside of that move is there is a minimum of $200 to withdraw, and
it takes 15 days to get your money via bankwire now instead of within the hour. If you are not yet 
in profit, he will still pay you via ecurrency processor until you are. I could live with that . But then 
I got an email that stated Profitable Sunrise is registered to a woman living in an offshore tax haven,
Seychilles,  who was also linked to nearly 180 shell companies. It
is registered to Inter Reef
Ltd in Birmingham, England.
Roman Novak is listed as the founder and chief executive on the
website, but company records show the sole director and shareholder of Inter Reef Ltd is a
45-year-old woman who lives in the Seychelles.
  The small island nation is renowned as a
tax haven in which to incorporate companies.
  Agnes Jouaneau is listed as the director of 35
other companies registered to the same Birmingham address in the UK, as is Profitable Sunrise, 
which is a small office block containing two accounting firms.
  Profitable Sunrise claims the company manages $400 million of bridging loans, but the records show assets of only £1 since Inter Reef was
incorporated in September 2011. It is now considered "dormant" by British authorities.

Now I am NOT saying ProSun is a scam. We all know big brother takes down many legitimate
businesses simply to steal their money. Usually they wait until significant funds are involved
to go after it. I have horror stories of quite a few people I knew who operated legitimate businesses government took down.  This forces people to circumvent government and upfront legalities
and set up business through LLC's and offshore corporations and shell companies and tax
havens so government won't meddle in their business. If Roman were doing bridge loans I
am sure that NONE of his high profile customers would want any notoriety or contact outside
of his dealings with them personally. With that , then there is no proof of these loans taking place
at all. Don't ask, you ain't gonna never get it.

We all know that just as with Cherry Shares, Cash Tanker, GNI and NewGNI and others that the
name of the game is only put in what you can afford to lose, get your principal back out as soon as possible and play with their money from then on and ride it until government succeeds in bringing
it down or they fail. Whether it is a real business, a scam or a ponzi, eventually all the high payers
will fail. Paul Halleaux with CashClub21 paid 14-15%/mo on real arb trading, even showing us the
trades that made the money.  I believe that was real. NewGNi at 24%/mo would have been much
more believable if they had made 15%/mo their upper limit.  Have we all just fallen for a pig in a
poke here? I have a lot more information that makes me feel Profitable Sunrise was legit than the
few emails I have received recently calling it a fraud. But until all this settles out, I feel we need to 
be very careful. I strongly suggest any of you considering joining Profitable Sunrise wait  and see 
how this is going to turn out as new information will surely be forthcoming, good or bad. For the rest ,
you might consider shutting compounding off until we see how this is going to turn out.
I joined this because I have three very strong upline people who have direct contact with Roman
and have provided me considerable information on how ProSun operates over and above what 
is shared on the net. My direct upline had phone conversation with Roman on 3-12 and the call 
was very positive. Roman has his attorneys working to resolve the NC issues and is aware of 
all that is being said.
Ultimately because they are offshore it does not mean a lot but has to be 
dealt with and will be. He has folks in training for support and asked that everyone be patient.
The Easter gift will be ok and there is great opportunity with new projects after Easter but he 
did not go into details.
Echeck is being worked on. ( another w/d option )  For the most part 
(outside of delays due to bankwire only withdrawals now) all is biz as usual, ACCORDING TO ROMAN.

According to www.profitablesunriseinvestigation.com  that may very well not be true. Ironically, 
I know of no one who was not paid on time by Profitable Sunrise. There is absolutely no mention 
of people not being paid in these allegations.

IMPORTANT:  It was requested that NO new deposits be made using STP or bank wires or any other outside means of deposit into a ProSun account at this time.  It is OK to go ahead and make withdrawals and OK to do a gift transfer of funds internally within ProSun  if you have existing referral and family accounts.  No new money should be deposited to be in harmony with the SEC Cease and Desist Order.  
It is not just a matter due to N. Carolina, but the SEC is a national agency.  Otherwise one could be in danger of violating the SEC C&D order and bring attention to yourself if anyone were to refer, that is, to promote the ProSun program to new members and/or to deposit NEW outside funds into the program account.  Nanci Jo Frazer's private group had shutdown new signups into that group until at least April 1st to get the SEC C&D Order resolved, hopefully in our favor.

What we can do is COMPOUND and, REINVEST earnings, and request to WITHDRAW, payment of funds, via the bank wire.  We could GIFT transfer to another existing member account in ProSun program.  Those are things that we can do. I know be able to hear the replay of the call soon, and if there is anything else that would be helpful or necessary to be shared, I will pass along any additional new details to you to share with others.  For now, it is well for everyone to lay low and just wait till the SEC issue is cleared up, that is, no new outside funds to be deposited and no new referrals.  Since Roman was given 30 days, maybe that issue will be resolved by or before that time (April 1st). 

Stay tuned.

3-22-2013 update

Profitable Sunrise Unofficial Update

This is a quote from BllAcKsHaDoW @ MMG Forum

FACEBOOK UPDATE OF PS :

*** Tonights Call High-Lights =) ***
Here are my notes for the same call… Hope this helps !
Call by Mike Artis and Tony

Conference call Summary:

We are ALL GOOD!!!

This is based on several calls within the last 24 hours with people I’ve spoken to… whom spoke with Roman.

We are about to go back up
Are servers are up… all 6 main servers are working…

New website will be similar
and all our accounts will be with in new site.

Easter gift is good !
Best guess is some time this weekend by Sunday night… Before Monday compounding starts.

We will be called a Private International Business Community, with a new definition as to how we represent ourself.

Servers are in two very safe places to address security issues Hong Kong is the safest places to be!

Chatter about negative info on us is wrong… We haven’t done anything wrong and we are changing to comply.

Roman is making it better, give him credit…

Lots of rumors are impacting
a really good people There are no facts or evidence we are not doing anything wrong. We are not selling securities. We are a group of individuals with strong values and purpose. We are not going to be pushed around or bullied by media Gurus.

Expect more restrictions with in company…

These corrections that are currently taking place have already been in the works, prior to the issues at hand.

Let’s look forward to this weekend and the new web-site.
Next weeks Confrence call, we can compare notes of the new system. Again, all is good !

Profitable Sunrise is not falling apart… Or taken down…

Look forward to a promising future

Bank wire will be the only way to transfer funds… We’ll see when sight is back up about E currency options.

Where are our funds? Funds are in loans and how the interest is paid out.

What about Easter Gift?
Easter Gift will be in available balance.

They are also working on E-check system

Interest will be paid for all banking days we were off line.

May be changing name… because no advertising allowed and to avoid all adds and banners that are currently out there already.

Empty accounts may be gone…
Won’t know until site is back up.

3-23-2013 update

Here is our latest update -- it's a LONG one, but maybe it will help you :

  

We were very excited to learn this week that the ProSun website domain was purchased by someone in China. We believe that this person / business might be one of Roman's customers. 

 

New Bank: 

Due to the increasing problems with the Czechoslovakia bank, Roman's Chinese client is helping Roman move to a Hong Kong bank.
Roman is working on a debit card and a e-checking system to facilitate withdrawals. 
We understand that only bank wires might be allowed for withdrawals.

 

Servers:

He and told us that he was going to be upgrading, since our old servers were totally maxed out.
Roman moved the servers to Hong Kong in order to protect us and ProSun.
The servers are safe, and our data is safe.
The 36 - 48 hours sent out by a support person referred to 8-hour business days.  
We expect the servers to be up and running very soon. 
One leader recently posted that the servers would be up late Sunday night, but we have not been able to verify that with Roman.

 

New Website:

We understand that the current programs in place will remain the same.
Roman plans to introduce new programs after the Easter Gift has been issued.
We heard this afternoon that the website release has been delayed a bit because Roman is address several security issues from the original website:  1) Hackers can easily reset your passwords; 2) you all of a sudden cannot log in;  3) no double opt-in for secret words, 4) no second confirmation for email address etc.
We believe that Roman will protect our Available cash.
Double opt ins when you sign up.
Possible new name and different business structure.
We may or may not have daily benefits accruing during down time.  We truly believe that the daily benefits have been calculated.

 

Support:

Roman currently has 120 support staff - 70 for loans, 50 for PS.
He will be tripling the support staff in the next few weeks, so that he can better serve us. 
The must have their high school bachelors masters degree, and speak up to five languages
Roman will be assigning 3 dedicated account managers for our community.  This should help us resolve our outstanding community problems quickly.
When the website comes up, we ask that only those with outstanding issues email support.  All others, please wait 48 hours before you send them an email to allow for the support staff to catch up.
Our own support team will have the right to refuse to help you if your behavior is unbecoming. 

 

New password to the back office of NJFGlobal Group. 

Due to recent security breaches, we have had to change the password:     successnow

 

During a recent interview Nanci conducted with Roman, Roman commented on the following:

 

Investors:

Roman told us recently that his loan portfolio is now 600 million.  Our total group participation represents only 5% of his total loan portfolio!  Meaning, he doesn't need us to do his business, but he wants to help us, bless us.  This is why we are considered to be his charitable arm.
We were never allowed to be an investor.  Investors needed 200-500K.  They were not part of a group, but were friends of his, who became co-owners. 
We are not co-owners.  The other 95% who are investors are the only co-owners.
Some states now refer to Roman's activity as a violation of SEC rules and regulations.  Therefore, the program model that we have seen in the past might not function in the same way when the new website is released.

 

Loans Applications: 

95% of the loan applications they receive are rejected.  
The #1 reason: Roman doesn't know them.  
people who has referred people he knows will receive loans.The only people who can apply are 

 

Depositors:    

Roman will not meet with anyone who has not put in 100K.  
Roman's investors have to be approved before the meeting

 

Clients / Borrowers:

Working with a big manufacturer in Asia as client for one of his bridge loans. 
The Long Haul was formed to create stability.
Only has had 2 defaults in the past year.
Verification takes only 2 to 3 days.  

Support:

Roman currently has 120 support staff - 70 for loans, 50 for PS.
He will be tripling the support staff in the next few weeks, so that he can better serve us. 
The must have their high school bachelors masters degree, and speak up to five languages
Roman will be assigning 3 dedicated account managers for our community.  This should help us resolve our outstanding community problems quickly.
When the website comes up, we ask that only those with outstanding issues email support.  All others, please wait 48 hours before you send them an email to allow for the support staff to catch up.
Our own support team will have the right to refuse to help you if your behavior is unbecoming or demanding. 

 

New password to the back office of NJFGlobal Group. 

Due to recent security breaches, we have had to change the password to access the links on the left side of Nanci's www.njfglobalgroup.com website
Please pass this on ONLY to people you know -  successnow

  

We hope this helps calm any fears, and replace those thoughts with thoughts of peace and trust,

 

God bless,

 

GIR Alliance Admin

 

 

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