It does look like now that PP-12 may be the only remaining RPP to pay out and the only RPP where you can actually have a chance to hear the Admin speak which at least gives it more a sense of credibility.
Hope that everyone tried to keep a level head as John has always stressed.
Newsletter trnaslated and comments:
Hi Members
I've only just returned, but it is sad to hear that they've raised the
requirement to the original 150,000, I did mention in a post recently that
this could happen but I was expecting only a 20% or so increase. I wouldn't
write-off the program just yet as it could be valid as to what they have done,
but as always please stay level headed at all times as even if it does turn
out to be real then it is not known how long it would take to payout.
Some people have compared this increase to WPP, but I don't see it that way at
all as WPP got to the first payout stages and then faked many issues, caused
delays and then announced a new high requirement that was never mentioned
originally, there are other things about WPP that suggest they are fake. As
for Pww4you, then the original agreement was 150,000 and it remained that way
for a long time and there were restrictions which would be very unusual for
scammers to implement, please see further details about this in the first post
of this thread. When they continued with a new arrangement in 2009 then the
requirement was reduced to 85,000 and what has impressed me is the accuracy of
their counting in that they do really seem to be auditing the numbers, where
as other RPPs have shown no interest in such a system and we also know those
other RPP's (now consider scams) to have taken in a lot more than they have
requested or reported.
If Pww4you were a scam, not that I can say they aren't as there is no way to
verify them either way with so much privacy, but if they were a scam then I
would think that they wouldn't bother with the counters or would have kept
them low and just kept bringing in people, scammers play confidence tricks and
when there's a lot of interest from people and everyone's trying to get in the
door at the last minute, as has happened with others, then they would keep
holding the count down and get as many purchases as possible, it is very
unusual to have frozen it all and then to do what they have now done, so I
still think there is a good chance it could be genuine, but it can never be
ruled out that it's not a long term and well thought out confidence trick,
even a private RPP of 10 years (I'm not in it but know people who are) is now
becoming suspect as people start to wonder whether the founder has just been
playing a confidence trick all that time and the members in that should soon
find out if it really does pay.
Reaching the original 150,000 may not take that long as it is already nearly
at 90,000 and so many who wanted to join can now do so, so it could be up to
120,000 or so fairly quickly, but it's true that many will see this as a red
flag and hold off inviting others and so the last 30,000 could take time, but
as there is a real-time count that doesn't seem to be tampered with (as per my
recent post I did monitor it in real time but can never truly know), but if
they were going to tamper with it then as I mentioned above they would have
already done so and taken in as many funds as possible and not proceeded as
they have, so with the count moving closer to the target then it should keep
people interested and help it reach that higher target.
I've posted an English 'translated' version of today's Nov 12th News below and
they do seem sincere about this, they also seem to be saying that if people
are over-age by the time of the payout stage then they will still qualify and
that the verification time is still a factor in the order of payment.
Now that there is this extension then those who didn't make it in time can now
join (please see details in the first post of this thread), those already
joined may 'not' wish to purchase any more positions which is wise as it is
best not to risk extra funds on impulse and so those people like me will just
be monitoring progress and hoping it reaches the target as soon as possible. I
also have enough donation funds for the 3 contacts to be shared with 6 people,
but may see if I can collect enough to give them their own contract each as
ideally I'd prefer not to be handling other people's positions, I need to
think further on this and will soon post an update about the 'surplus
over-spill' donation situation.
The return to the original agreement of the higher contract requirement is not
what we wanted to hear and no doubt many are sending complaints so it may be
hard to get a response from support for a while, perhaps they will post
another update in response which they normally do if there are strong
complaints, however as I also mentioned before then if it is real then we are
just pawns in a large financial game and they will do what they will, but so
far they don't seem to have been playing the same tricks as other RPPs and as
I mentioned above if they were a scam then they could have so easily taken in
so much more by now, more than 150,000 contracts worth and then disappeared,
so the current actions do not seem that of confidence tricksters (scammers).
As for the mention recently about the SEC getting involved, then that is not
likely as Pww4you are also very private just as GPP have been and have not had
SEC interference, the only reason the SEC got involved with Imperia invest is
due to the large following by the US deaf community, once complaints from a
large number of deaf US citizens came in then it got the SEC's attention and
as those people are disabled than it has added further impact to the
complaint.
I'll make further comments soon about those waiting to join and other issues,
but even though the change is disappointing and I really do feel for a lot of
people on this as I know so many want a quick solution to help resolve their
financial hardship and hopefully that will still be possible in the near
future, but I still see indications that they could be genuine as they haven't
played the same confidence tricks as the others and could so easily have done
so recently and got away with it, so time will tell what really happens and
hopefully it won't take much longer to reach the new target.
Even though many of these programs are a real test of people's patience, they
certainly push mine to the limit at times, it is only by trying that we have a
chance to succeed, admittedly it is becoming hard to know what is real with so
much privacy and that there are too many scammers online, but I still remain
optimistic that Pww4you and PP-12 (private and now closed to further members)
are the two remaining 'windfall' programs that offer us that chance of a
life-changing payout, we could even be surprised by Imperia Invest if they are
real and move to a payout process early next year (from various information
I've picked up on, nothing to do with the recent scam email, please do not
send any funds to LR), but as always it is also important to relax and stay
level headed so please enjoy your weekend and stay well.
Dear Members,
As we promised and had done in the past months, here is our actual
news-letter. We will continue to provide you with news every 2-3 months as
previously stated.
First we like to point out the process if a profile change is needed.
Changes of addresses - profile:
If you moved, got married etc. and need to change your profile data you can do
that at any time regardless if you have already verified your account or not.
In case you did not verify yet, than the following does not apply to you. If
you verified already, please read the following in order to change your
profile. If all is correct, please do not do anything. Again, the following
applies only if you need to make changes. You do not need to write to support,
just follow the instructions:
If you have more than one account, log into one account, it does not matter
which one.
Click on My Accounts
You have a button Reopen
Click on Reopen
You will be advised that this cannot be reversed
After that you can change your profile (click the profile button)
After you have done all the changes, please read under verification
Please send immediately all the new documents (Copy of passport/ID with the
new address or name change) to verify@pww4you.com
Again, this is only needed if you moved or have a name change.
Verification:
Log into your account. It does not matter for the verification into
which of your accounts you log in to.
Click on My Accounts
Check your account list again
Click on Verify these Accounts
You will be advised that this cannot be reversed
Click on execute, remember, that step cannot be reversed. Also if you still
have open contracts, they will be deleted.
Now the verification starts. You will receive a prompt with an e-mail address
to send your documents. Please do not forget to put your account ID in the
reference line. E-mails that do not have the account ID in the reference will
be deleted.
For the final verification we need one or several documents from you.
The passport/ID needs to list the following:
1. Your first and last name
2. Street address
3. City, Zip, State and Country
4. Birthday
You need to send a copy of your passport/ID with the e-mail. Should your
address not be listed in the passport/ID, you need to provide us with a copy
of a phone bill (utility bill etc.) that shows your address. A letter from
your City hall that confirms your address is also accepted. For the
notarization of your documents: copies need to be notarized and cannot be
older than 2 years. Originals do not need to be notarized. Scan in the
documents and send them via e-mail to verify@pww4you.com
Completion:
The lower fee and the removal of the age difference showed good results.
However, we have a long way to go to reach our goal and need to work hard on
that realization. We need to work closely together. We are working intensive
on the completion and going forward with great determination. We can assure
you that the present membership final will not be increased. Whoever is with
us now or until completion will surely reap the rewards. The last calculation
showed us that it is possible to reach our goal in the 4th quarter of 2011 or
the 1st in 2012. This will not happen on its own and we need your help and
cooperation. Again, let's give it our all and the results will show up.
Let's get the program together to a successful ending. We are working hard on
that goal, are you?
Best Regards
Support-Team
PWW4YOU
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