Bin Laden: ***AUTHENTIC INTERVIEW ***

An interview with Osama bin Laden was published in a Karachi-based

Pakistani daily newspaper, Ummat, on September 28, 2001. In this

interview, bin Laden says of the September 11 attacks in the US:

"I have already said that I am not involved in the 11 September

attacks in the United States. As a Muslim, I try my best to avoid

telling a lie. I had no knowledge of these attacks, nor do I consider

the killing of innocent women, children and other humans as an

appreciable act. Islam strictly forbids causing harm to innocent

women, children and other people. Such a practice is forbidden even

in the course of a battle.

"It is the United States, which is perpetrating every maltreatment on

women, children and common people . . . "

Everyone familiar with the content of the Waco Holocaust Electronic Museum

http://www.Public-action.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum

knows bin Laden is telling the truth.

News of this Ummat interview was suppressed in the US. Between the

time of its publication and October 7, the US apparently spent its

time creating a fake "bin Laden" interview, using either a stand-in

or morphing.

Or was the fraud produced by the Brits, as a favor to the US? No,

the Taliban Home Video was a ham-fisted effort. The Brits usually

have more subtelty . . .

You can read about the US fraud, "The Taliban Home Video," at

http://www.Public-Action.com/911/hvideo.html

Attached to "The Taliban Home Video" you will find a copy of a March,

1977 CNN interview with bin Laden, conducted by Peter Arnett.

Compare the content and the style of bin Laden's remarks in the 1977

CNN interview with the content and style of bin Laden's remarks in

the September 28, 2001 Ummat interview. Yes, it is the same man, all

right. It appears to me that the Ummat interview is authentic.

Here is a copy of the Ummat interview, which you can find at this URL:

http://www.khilafah.com/1421/category.php?DocumentID=2392&TagID=2

I am grateful to InfoTimes <infotimes@rcn.com> for passing this

information along to me.

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Usama bin Laden Says Israeli Regime is Behind the 9-11 Attacks

KABUL, Afghanistan (Ummat): Prominent Arab mojahed (freedom fighter)

Usama bin Laden or the Al-Qaida group has nothing to do with the 11

September attacks on the Bush Administration,

according to an Usama bin Laden interview with Ummat, the

Karachi-based Pakistani daily newspaper. In his interview, Usama bin

Laden pointed out that the Israeli regime is behind the 9-11 attacks.

He expressed gratitude and support for Pakistan, urging the Pakistani

people to continue their jehad against dictators, tyrants, traitors,

crooks, criminals, dictatorships and tyrannies. Following is the text

of Usama Bin Laden's interview conducted by a "special correspondent"

and published in the daily Ummat on Friday, 28 September 2001. [The

place and date of the interview was not given by Ummat.]

Daily UMMAT: You have been accused of involvement in the attacks in

New York and Washington. What do you want to say about this? If you

are not involved, who might be?

USAMA BIN LADEN: In the name of Allah (God), the most beneficent, the

most merciful. Praise be to Allah, Who is the creator of the whole

universe and Who made the Earth as an abode

for peace, for the whole humankind. Allah is the Sustainer, who sent

Prophet Muhammad (saw) for our guidance. I am thankful to The Ummat

Group of Publications, which gave me the opportunity to convey my

viewpoint to the people, particularly the valiant and momin (true

Muslim) people of Pakistan who refused to believe the lies of the

demon (Pakistani military dictator General Pervez Musharraf).

I have already said that I am not involved in the 11 September

attacks in the United States. As a Muslim, I try my best toavoid

telling a lie. I had no knowledge of these attacks, nor do I consider

the killing of innocent women, children and other humans as an

appreciable act. Islam strictly forbids causing harm to innocent

women, children and other people. Such a practice is forbidden even

in the course of a battle. It is the United States, which is

perpetrating every maltreatment on women, children and common people

of other faiths, particularly the followers of Islam. All that is

going on in Palestine for the last 11 months is sufficient to call

the wrath of God upon the United States and Israel. There is also a

warning for those Muslim countries, which witnessed all these as a

silent spectator. What had earlier been done to the innocent people

of Iraq, Chechnya and Bosnia? Only one conclusion could be derived

from the indifference of the United States and the West to these acts

of terror and the patronage of the tyrants by these powers that

America is an anti-Islamic power and it is patronizing the

anti-Islamic forces. Its friendship with the Muslim countries is just

a show, rather deceit. By enticing or intimidating these countries,

the United States is forcing them to play a role of its choice. Put a

glance all around and you will see that the slaves of the United

States are either rulers or enemies of Muslims.

The U.S. has no friends, nor does it want to keep any because the

prerequisite of friendship is to come to the level of the friend or

consider him at par with you. America does not want to

see anyone equal to it. It expects slavery from others. Therefore,

other countries are either its slaves or subordinates. However, our

case is different. We have pledged slavery to God Almighty alone and

after this pledge there is no possibility to become the slave of

someone else. If we do that it will be disregardful to both our

Sustainer and his fellow beings. Most of the world nations upholding

their freedom are the religious ones, which are the enemies of the

United States, or the U.S. itself considers them as its enemies.

The countries which do not agree to become the U.S. slaves are China,

Iran, Libya, Cuba, Syria [Afghanistan, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Iraq,

Sudan, Indonesia, Malaysia] and Russia. Whoever committed the act of

11 September are not the friends ofthe American people. I have

already said that we are against the American system, not against its

people, whereas in these attacks, the common American people have

been killed. According to my information, the death toll is much

higher than what the U.S. Government has stated. But the Bush

Administration does not want the panic to spread. The United States

should try to trace the perpetrators of these attacks within itself;

the people who are a part of the U.S. system, but are dissenting

against it. Or those who are working for some other system; persons

who want to make the present century as a century of conflict between

Islam and Christianity so that their own civilization, nation,

country, or ideology could survive. They can be anyone, from Russia

to Israel and from India to Serbia. In the U.S. itself, there are

dozens of well-organized and well-equipped groups, which are capable

of causing a large-scale destruction. Then you cannot forget the

American-Jews, who are annoyed with President Bush ever since the

elections in Florida and want to avenge him.

Then there are intelligence agencies in the U.S., which require

billions of dollars worth of funds from the Congress and the

government every year. This [funding issue] was not a big problem

till the existence of the former Soviet Union but after that the

budget of these agencies has been in danger. They needed an enemy.

So, they first started propaganda against Usama and Taleban and then

this incident happened. You see, the Bush Administration approved a

budget of 40 billion dollars. Where will this huge amount go? It will

be provided to the same agencies, which need huge funds and want to

exert their importance. Now they will spend the money for their

expansion and for increasing their importance. I will give you an

example. Drug smugglers from all over the world are in contact with

the U.S. secret agencies. These agencies do not want to eradicate

narcotics cultivation and trafficking because their importance will

be diminished. The people in the U.S. Drug Enforcement Department are

encouraging drug trade so that they could show performance and get

millions of dollars worth of budget. General Noriega was made a drug

baron by the CIA and, in need, he was made a scapegoat. In the same

way, whether it is President Bush or any other U.S. President, they

cannot bring Israel to justice for its human rights abuses or to hold

it accountable for suchcrimes. What is this? Is it not that there

exists a government within the government in the United Sates? That

secret government must be asked as to who carried out the attacks.

Daily UMMAT: A number of world countries have joined the call of the

United States for launching attacks on Afghanistan. These also

include a number of Muslim countries. Will Al-Qaida declare

a jehad against these Islamic countries as well?

USAMA BIN LADEN: I must say that my duty is just to awaken the

Muslims; to tell them as to what is good for them and what is not.

What does Islam says and what the enemies of Islam want?

Al-Qaida was set up to wage a jehad against infidelity, particularly

to counter the onslaught of the infidel countries against the Islamic

states. Jehad is the sixth undeclared pillar of Islam. [The first

five being the basic holy words of Islam (There is only one God in

the entire universe and Muhammad is

the last Prophet of God), prayers, fast, pilgrimage to Mecca and

giving alms (zakat).] Every anti-Islamic person is afraid of jehad.

Al-Qaida wants to keep jehad alive and active and make it

a part of the daily life of the Muslims. It wants to give it the

status of worship. We are not against any Islamic country. We do not

consider a war against an Islamic country as jehad. We are

in favour of armed jehad only against those infidel governments,

which are killing innocent Muslim men, women and children just

because they are Muslims. Supporting the U.S. act is the need of

some Muslim countries and the compulsion of others. However, they

should think as to what will remain of their religious and moral

position if they support the attack of the Christians and the Jews on

a Muslim country like Afghanistan. The orders of Islamic Shariah

[jurisprudence] for such individuals, organizations and countries are

clear and all the scholars of the Muslim brotherhood are unanimous on

them. We will do the same, which is being ordered by the

Ameer-ul-Momeneen [the

commander of the faithful Afghans] Muhammad Omar and the Islamic

scholars. The hearts of the people of Muslim countries are beating

with the call of jehad. We are grateful to them.

Daily UMMAT: The losses caused in the attacks in New York and

Washington have proved that giving an economic blow to the U.S.is not

too difficult. U.S. experts admit that a few more such

attacks can bring down the American economy. Why is Al-Qaida not

targeting their economic pillars?

USAMA BIN LADEN: I have already said that we are not hostile to the

United States. We are against the [U.S. Government] system,which

makes other nations slaves of the United States, or forces them to

mortgage their political and economic freedom. This system is totally

in control of the American-Jews, whose first priority is Israel, not

the United States. It is clear that the American people are

themselves the slaves of the Jews and are forced to live according to

the principles and laws laid by them. So, the punishment should reach

Israel. In fact, it is Israel, which is giving a blood bath to

innocent Muslims and the U.S. is not uttering a single word.

Daily UMMAT: Why is harm not caused to the enemies of Islam through

other means, apart from the armed struggle? For instance, urging the

Muslims to boycott Western products, banks, shipping lines and TV

channels.

USAMA BIN LADEN: The first thing is that Western products could only

be boycotted when the Muslim fraternity is fully awakened and

organized. Secondly, the Muslim companies should become

self-sufficient in producing goods equal to the products of Western

companies. Economic boycott of the West is not possible unless

economic self-sufficiency is attained and substitute products are

brought out. You see that wealth is scattered all across the Muslim

World but not a single TV channel has been acquired which can preach

Islamic injunctions according to modern requirements and attain an

international influence. Muslim traders and philanthropists should

make it a point that

if the weapon of public opinion is to be used, it is to be kept in

the hand. Today's world is of public opinion and the fates of nations

are determined through its pressure. Once the tools for building

public opinion are obtained, everything that you asked for can be

done.

Daily UMMAT: The entire propaganda about your struggle has so far

been made by the Western media. But no information is being received

from your sources about the network of Al-Qaida and its jehadi

successes. Would you comment?

USAMA BIN LADEN: In fact, the Western media is left with nothing

else. It has no other theme to survive for a long time. Then we have

many other things to do. The struggle for jehad and the

successes are for the sake of Allah and not to annoy His bondsmen.

Our silence is our real propaganda. Rejections, explanations, or

corrigendum only waste your time and through them, the enemy wants

you to engage in things which are not of use to you. These things are

pulling you away from your cause. The Western media is unleashing

such a baseless propaganda, which makes us surprise but it reflects

on what is in their hearts and gradually they themselves become

captive of this

propaganda. They become afraid of it and begin to cause harm to

themselves. Terror is the most dreaded weapon in modern age and the

Western media is mercilessly using it against its own

people. It can add fear and helplessness in the psyche of the people

of Europe and the United States. It means that what the enemies of

the United States cannot do, its media is doing that.

You can understand as to what will be the performance of the nation

in a war, which suffers from fear and helplessness.

Daily UMMAT: What will be the impact of the freeze of Al-Qaida

accounts by the U.S.?

USAMA BIN LADEN: God opens up ways for those who work for Him.

Freezing of accounts will not make any difference for Al-Qaida or

other jehad groups. With the grace of Allah, Al-Qaida has

more than three alternative financial systems, which are all

separate and totally independent from each other. This system is

operating under the patronage of those who love jehad. What to

say of the United States, even the combined world cannot budge these

people from their path. These people are not in hundreds but in

thousands and millions. Al-Qaida comprises of such modern educated

youths who are aware of the cracks inside the Western financial

system as they are aware of the lines in their hands. These are the

very flaws of the Western fiscal system, which are becoming a noose

for it and this system could not recuperate in spite of the passage

of so many days. Daily UMMAT: Are there other safe areas other than

Afghanistan, where you can continue jehad?

USAMA BIN LADEN: There are areas in all parts of the world where

strong jehadi forces are present, from Indonesia to Algeria, from

Kabul to Chechnya, from Bosnia to Sudan, and from Burma to Kashmir.

Then it is not the problem of my person. I am a helpless fellowman of

God, constantly in the fear of my accountability before God. It is

not the question of Usama but of Islam and, in Islam too, of jehad.

Thanks to God, those waging a jehad can walk today with their heads

raised. Jehad was still present when there was no Usama and it will

remain as such even when Usama is no longer there. Allah opens up

ways and creates loves in the hearts of people for those who walk on

the path of Allah with their lives, property and children. Believe

it, through jehad, a man gets everything he desires. And the biggest

desire of a Muslim is the life after death. Martyrdom is the shortest

way of attaining an eternal life.

Daily UMMAT: What do you say about the Pakistan Government policy on

Afghanistan attack?

USAMA BIN LADEN: We are thankful to the Momin and valiant people of

Pakistan who erected a blockade in front of the evil forces and stood

in the first file of battle. Pakistan is a great hope

for the Islamic brotherhood. Its people are awakened, organized and

rich in the spirit of faith. They backed Afghanistan in its war

against the Soviet Union and extended every help to the mojahedeen

(freedom fighters) and the Afghan people. Then these are very

Pakistanis who are standing shoulder by shoulder with the Taleban. If

such people emerge in just two countries, the domination of the West

will diminish in a matter of days. Our hearts beat with Pakistan and,

God forbid, if a difficult time comes we will protect it with our

blood. Pakistan is sacred for us like a place of worship. We are the

people of jehad and fighting for the defense of Pakistan is the best

of all jehads to us. It does not matter for us as to who reforms

Pakistan. The important thing is that the spirit of jehad is alive

and stronger in the hearts of the Pakistani people.

- Source: Ummat, Urdu-language daily newspaper based in Karachi,

Pakistan -

Friday, 28 September 2001 - pages 1, 7.

- Source: BBC Monitoring Service.

- Source: http://www.khilafah.com

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